I just got my 3900x today and installed it in an X570 Taichi running the newest stable bios: 1.40. I had to rma both due to overheating in bios, IF not stable over 1600, random reboots when putting a load on cpu. I myself also own a 3900x and have tested the stock coolers before and they just arent very good for long term use and is why AMD recomends using an AIO instead for the 3900x and 3950x (3950x and above doesn't even come with a cooler cause it requires you to have an AIO for it), I personally use a cheap idCooling 360 AIO i got last year (was just planning to just test it and replace with a Coolermaster AIO but ended keeping it cause i got too lazy and busy with work to change it lol) and it works way better and more quieter (especially while doing prolonged sustained Cycle render in Blener) than the stock prism cooler, and if a 360mm rad doesnt fit your case you could go with a 240mm AIO with a thick radiator or a 280mm AIO which is cheaper though slightly wider than a 360 AIO. If you really have to change the RGB settings just install dragon center again, change to your desired RGB settings then uninstall it afterwards. If your CPU pulls 180-200W AVX then you've enabled PBO and are overclocking. This website uses cookies. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If removed, it seems to be reinstalled as soon as Dragon Master is opened again. Check your voltage if you run high temps on idle!!! Ryzen 3xxx CPUs tend to run at veery high voltage even on idle. Set BIOS voltages to their default or Auto values, except those voltage domains that are adjusted by your memory's XMP profile; 4. keep your chipset software, Windows version (1903 recommended), and motherboard BIOS version up to date; and 5. don't worry if you don't see <0.5 V values, <1 V is the desired idle … I just built and assembled a Ryzen 9 3900X system for myself - the first system I've built for myself from the ground up! Image 1 of 10. Reinstalled stock cooler. My 3900x was getting fairly low benchmark scores at stock settings, ~6700-6800 in Cinebench R20. Cinebench at 80° is not out of ordinary (on my system I reach 78°). I had updated to the last version so still not sure why it was coming up in Dragon Center. However sometimes out of nowhere it would go up to 95 degrees and at some point shut the pc down with the message, CPU overheating. I have c-state enabled. Or you can say AMD has a different definition of IDLE than Intel. When I got the replacements I did the default install and booted to bios set to auto and XMP to 3200 and set timing and voltages. This is actually a 3rd party LAN/WAN manager that is installed as part of Dragon Master. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/. In a screenshot shared on Reddit, Hallock showed that when twiddling its thumbs, a Ryzen 9 3900X can drop its voltages well below 0.4 V. this went on for two weeks. Image 8 of 10. tl;dr, the behavior you're describing is normal. Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Threadripper, EPYC, Navi, the next-gen consoles, news, rumours, show-off your build and more. Re: Ryzen 3900X Temperature and Voltage Problem in idel Best solution is offset voltage from bios with value of -0.0125V and all heat problems will gone but the speed will stay about 3.799GH Hi Guys! The best CPUs are not supposed to do that. So with of these facts in mind, is something wrong with my cooler, should I repaste or is this normal behavior? I've reinstalled windows 10, latest AMD chipset drivers, latest BIOS update from MSI and I just can't get rid of the problem. Discussion. something is changing and not being reset correctly. Anyway, I installed those as well just to see if it made a difference and after, I wasn't using the PC for a bit and it went into sleep mode (windows balanced energy thing). From the video other than the high usage on core 1 and 2 (which im not sure whats up with that, could be because your recording at that time maybe?) Also, don't bother updating chipset drivers using dragon center, its usually out of date and may cause you problems down the line if it starts installing old drivers on top of new ones which I've actually seen happen with an older version of dragon center before. I'm not sure if this is due to the windows balance energy cycle, or the AMD chipset drivers via Dragon Center. what about temps and voltage when you run cinebench? x570 unify with bios Version 7C35vA3 Release Date 2020-01-16, I had many issues with the original unify and 3900x. ClockTuner for Ryzen (CTR) 1.1 beta 7 ClockTuner for … SOP as it should be. Okay, but Vcore and stuff is something that might be fixed in future BIOS updates, right? It's not idle at all, always try to do something. Re: Voltage/clocks for idle 3900X 2020/06/21 03:19:13 bob16314 Just off the top of my head I'd say to set the Power Plan in Windows -> Control Panel -> … The RGB options you chose usually are kept even after uninstalling it, atleast thats how it is with my MSI x570 Pro Carbon Wifi and Edge. But that really brings more power consumption and heat, which also leads to louder fan noise. idle. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. 1.) I'm running all my fans on 60% (140mm 1000rpm) until 60°C after that it goes up to 100% at 80°C. I got my 3900X last week and it is awesome! it melted my aio pump and damaged it perm. Something is causing these cpu's to super heat after a cmos reset. No apps or games at all. Works fine functionally, but I noticed that in multiple programs, i.e. Ive got a query with my temps on my Ryzen 9 3900x, I think its high but can i get a few second opinions & maybe some advice from you guys? Hi! Not using Dragon Center or any other measuring applications in the back ground. I did notice something yesterday that has now stabilized the situation (for now). Removing services like this will help increase your benchmarking performance - I get 30-50 more in Cinebench R20 when I strip all possible services from my 3900x. Thanks for the heads up with the cFosSpeed program that is indeed running.. it seems that it comes with many motherboards, but may not be necessary to have. If you are looking to drop down your cpu temp; i had same issues while gaming cpu goes upto 95; idle was around 44 - 57; after those setting cpu dont goes above 77 while on load, This did indeed do the exact same for me. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/ and, https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbbfce/3900x_being_overvolted_on_amd_ryzen_power_plans/etefuer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app. in bios idling I was hitting 115 c and alarms would go off. reboot back to bios. Removing services like this will help increase your benchmarking performance - I get 30-50 more in Cinebench R20 when I strip all possible services from my 3900x. My friends TUF X570 3900X setup was the same high temps with high core voltage stock. 40W idle is fine. It's not idle at all, always try to do something. Can someone help me? Then the idle temp is all right. NEW! In Dragon Center (there's a section for drivers) and it was showing the AMD chipset drivers.. Almost started taking the cooler off but this may have saved me from the hassle. But what does this 220W TDP of the noctua cooler mean? Honestly I did a per ccx overclock and my idle temps stay way better because my vcore stays at 1.35 The idle on my 3900x stays around 60c on default it's really annoying. This is actually a 3. cfosspeed will give you more info if you need it. So, if i were to just take #s from above, and enter 1.36 or whatever worked for others, i would most likely get a static voltage, and none of the power saves from having the voltage adapt to whats needed when a load is applied. Not a single setting. no rocket science here. Running an undervolt of 0.0750v-0.1000v only drops my max clockspeed by literally 50MHz but significantly reduces the voltage and heat running through the chip. Previously it had a ryzen 2600x with asus b450 and when in manual overclock it lowered the frequency and the voltage in idle. reinstall it all and test please. (There was a official post on this on this very reddit a few days/weeks back.). I got myself a Noctua NH D15s and noticed two things which I hope you can help me out with. Description of Original Problem: CPU idle voltage draw between 1.38v to 1.4v. Edit: I know everything is fine if I leave the idle voltage at 1.4-1.5V. User account menu • [HELP] 3900x - Temps/Voltages check + Organizing HWINFO64. Each time I'm rebooting the PC however it seems to forget it's settings and seems to not stick to the same scenario.. Not sure why this is happening, it's very frustrating.. Untitled: Apr 12, 2020 3:44 PM.webm - Google Drive  please see here a video of how the core speed and multiplier change very second (this is idle).. the fan's going nuts which makes me go nuts! Hi,  Good tip on cfosspeed. idle 39c max for 3 hours boot to windows and idle at 42 to 45 c @ 1-3 % cpu usage. I am going to bet every single person reporting these issues has done at least 1 cmos reset. What ever it is. Keep in mind that AVX is the worst case possible for any CPU. I think I now have a clue for you all and why we are all seeing these strange high temps. Untitled: Apr 12, 2020 3:44 PM.webm - Google Drive, https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07B9HP5H6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. I have just bought the Kraken X72 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07B9HP5H6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 as it was on offer and I've had my eyes on it for a while now. The CPU is also doing it outside of the recording there was no difference there. My AIO runs at 50% RPM normally so it keeps the temps down and my coolant temp around 25-26C with ambient around 21-22C. Temp/voltage on Matisse (desktop Zen2) needs to be viewed in light of current draw. Boot to windows and I now idle at 75c. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Thanks a lot, I was just wondering because all the reviewers praised it for its low power consumption. again nothing special config wise. Maybe your W10 is stressing it with background updates/tasks. The idle temperature was fine indeed around 40 degrees. #3. If at all  possible, download and install your drivers one at a time while constantly monitoring for any strange system behaviour, makes it easier to notice if a driver you just installed is causing you problems. You'd also thermally lock a 9900K with it, with similar - well, compute-wise, *much* worse - results. I can work around this by enabling Windows Power Saver Power Plan, but this doesn't really solve the issue and I need to switch power plans when I am gaming, updating, etc. Okay good to know! After 1st assembly have not taken stock cooler off so thermal paste should also not be the reason. I guess from the 14nm chiplet..? I don't overclock it and the only program running is Dragon Center from MSI to change the RGB and the user scenario (which I guess is overclocking?). Tried all auto vs 4.0 g all core. If I close iCUE the CPU idles as expected at 2.2 ghz, 0.8v, etc, but if I enter iCUE then I boost to 4.3 ghz, 1.45v, etc. Since a ton of people have complained about voltages, heat, etc. Under heavy load the 3900X can run at 1.1v with vdrop which is a great CPU. I still don't trust it 100% and have yet to test it with a game to see how it reacts. But not THAT better as your old buddy i5. At IDLE (0-1% CPU) the CPU Package Power is around 40W, is that normal? This plan causes the CPU to downclock to 2.2 GHz and 0.95V or even lower (on my system it can sometimes hit a low of 0.2V). My i5 went with the boxed cooler basically to room temps (25-30°C). 7 Posts #2 • 2 mo ago. Image 7 of 10. Only CPU-Z and Ryzen Master (that's 1 complicated program). Now with 3700x with x570 in manual overclock this does not happen. Is the fan curve set to "silent" or some such? Please help as this is driving me insane! This is with my ac running and it's 68 degrees outside. It's a 145W 12c part, in no way at all comparable to a measly i5. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. After changing it to Voltage Offset -0,200 the temperatures are now about 30C in Idle. Now I am at 35 deg. reboot back to bios. I just want stability and I hope this will get it. I believe the cmos reset button process is broken. The computer was idle and no updates were being installed. Hi. Most current benchmark/monitoring apps actually put enough load on the CPU to raise the cores from sleep / idle. I have combed through the bios and there isnt anything out of order or set incorrectly. through everything under the sun and the kitchen sink....no effect. This results in high idle voltages, increased power draw, and increased heat output. And secondly under load (if I apply manual OC) my CPU pulls 180W-200W (AVX) and the Noctua can't keep the temps under 95°C, but I have read that this Noctua has a TDP of 220-250W so it should keep it at 90°C or below right? booted back to bios and my temps started climbing incredibly fast 40 50 60 70 80 90 +. Bios needed a battery pull to clear microcode. do a cmos reset, then pull battery, then verify cpu temp in bios before and after. Or you can say AMD has a different definition of IDLE than Intel. I have a 3900x, 1080 Ti, and MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi, 2x16 GB RAM 3200, Noctua-U14s CPU isn't overclocked manually, just PBO + XLR is on by … Press J to jump to the feed. Ryzen 3900X Idle Power Consumption, Voltage, and Clocks. Image 2 of 10. Googling cfosspeed will give you more info if you need it. Ryzen Master, CPUZ, HWMonitor, the voltages were consistently staying above 1.4 and upto 1.5 while rarely dipping into the 1.3 range. I read a guide somewhere and set all cores to 4.5ghz and set a static voltage of 1.3v until someone told me I'd possibly degrade my chip by doing that (had it … Switching to Windows Balanced will reduce idle by another 7W, not sure if that's worth it for losing some Zen2 features.2.) voltage spikes at 1.45 V or higher are absolutely normal with a 3900X. Low 50s on idle. When I got the replacements I did the default install and booted to bios set to auto and XMP to 3200 and set timing and voltages. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. When I turned it back on, CPU was stable, Voltage was stable, and with that the Fans were stable.. Also now as I'm typing this message, the PC is stable again.. After a few days of over clocking and testing limits I had to do a cmos reset by way of the cmos reset button on the back of the rear io. currently per HWinfo64 voltage is 1.47 max clocks are 4.45 ghz max. So depending on your ambient and coolant temps and fan speeds you may be fine idle temp … Image 3 of 10. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. every thing is set correctly. Since I have a vertical mount 1080 TI I have not pulled cpu and cmos battery yet. 100% load was hitting over 90*C, at 1.25v load temps dropped to mid 70's. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Then they run hot. So 40W with a Noctua that results in 45°C is just the normal behaviour? I would lower your offset a little bit ( maybe at -0.0725 V) because in my opinion you are slightly reducing performance with -0.1 V, but don’t worry about voltage. I set it to be disabled on startup as it is not required (bloatware) and in fact may slow down your internet speed in some cases. The Zen 2 IDLE is broken. Since yesterday I seem to have the same issue, but my PC suddenly shut down and on reboot it said CPU overheated.. this has now happened several times. This has basically been my experience w/ a 3900x as well. Image 5 of 10. Okay great! That seems very high to me, I come from an 45W i5, which obviously had a lot less power but IDLE'd at 5-10W. CPUz told me my voltage was stuck at 1.25 volts... there was no powering down happening when the system was idle. Cookies help us deliver our Services. windows updates all completed. Idle 39c max temps in cinebench r20 85c. Unfortunately the fans going up and down all the time seems to be a norm now and affects a number of people depending on what board they use, only solution is to use an AIO which i highly recomend you do anyway cause the stock Prism cooler just isn't very good for the 3900x especially if you dont have or use regular AC in the room. But not THAT better as your old buddy i5. If current draw (and by logical extension, power draw) are low during these voltage/temperature spikes during low periods of activity (idle, or close to it), then the spikes are largely irrelevant. I've decided to publish the Windows power plan I use on my 3900X. boot to windows and idle at 42 to 45 c @ 1-3 % cpu usage. do you see the voltage and frequency fluctuate? Contaminated with lots of sandy stuff. I would like someone that has a functional 3900x to pull the cpu and pull the cmos battery. Or you are. CPU usage on core 1 & 2 shouldn't be that high at idle, my 3900x doesn't even go that high at idle even when I've got steam and other background processes running. By clicking OK, you consent to the use of cookies. It is directly due to resetting the cmos. /r/AMD is community run and does not represent AMD in any capacity unless specified. Would Also recomend you uninstall dragon center, have had issues with it in the past that was causing high cpu usage while idle on my 3900x plus it would install something called cFospeed which is part dragon centers network speed management which you dont really need and people have had connectivity issues with in the past, not to mention it would sometimes remain installed in your system even after uninstalling Dragon center (you can usually find it using windows program uninstall but there have been cases of it not beeing listed there but can still be seen as a process/service running in the background). There is currently no cooler, not even ideal watercooling, on the market that would be able to deal with >200W 3900x unless you go exotic (chiller/LN2). 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